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    Widdler
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    Hey all,

    Im going backpacking for a month across Europe, so im trying to keep my pack weight down aswell as cost as funds are low at the minute. What would you recommend for cooking? Im looking at a trangia set at the minute, or a cheaper copy as they are quite expensive, this is mainly due to the ease of getting the meths and Ive used one a number of times but its been borrowed.

    Any advice would be great, also links to good deals if you have any!

    Thanks!

    Badger!

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    I've never used a Trangia, but my "go to" stoves are all meths fuelled, and i'd trust them over any other type/fuel, so the Trangia may well be the best choice for you if you don't mind -

    The relatively slow boil/cooking times.

    The bulk.

    The weight.

    Gas does seem to overtake the weight savings over meths after around 6/7 days, but if gas carts aren't available.....?

    Also, maybe a multi fuel stove would be the best all round option. ?

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    Which stoves do you use? Are they heavier/lighter than a trangia? Do they have pots, etc with? I just dont want to be in the middle of Europe and struggle to find the right kind of gas canister. Were as meths can be bought easily, anywhere!

    Any advice is welcomed!

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    I use home made meths burners with Caldera cone clones, not off the shelf kit, and i gave up on gas 2 years ago now as meths suits the one/ two day trips i mostly do, but in your position i'd go for a multi fuel stove probably, main reason being petrol and diesel are available everywhere, and i'd more than likely forget the French term for "meths".

    Each have their merits, it's where and how you'll be using it that counts.

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    A multi-fuel stove for backpacking round Europe? FFS, he'll just be eating frites and baguettes on the rare occasions he's not breeding a new super-strain of chlamydia with his fellow backpackers.

    If you feel you really need a stove, just get a little alcohol job that doesn't need a bulky support, a big metal mug and a spoon. You'll be fine.

    http://fuel.papo-art.com/
    http://www.mark-ju.net/juliette/meths.htm

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    Have you considered something like the Honey Stove? This would let you burn meths, hexamine and twigs. The new Ti version is quite pricey but you'd be saving on fuel costs wherever twigs were available, not to mention saving fuel weight too... Some esbit tabs as backup and wood is a great way for longer trips...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montgomery Wick View Post
    he'll just be eating frites and baguettes on the rare occasions he's not breeding a new super-strain of chlamydia with his fellow backpackers.
    Aussie Rules (gap-year) backpacking then?

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    Super strain of chlamydia? Your idea of this trip sounds like alot more fun than mine! To be fair, I would eat like a king if I ha the money to facilitate, but this is going to be a very low budget affair! Pasta/rice with beans for a month! Maybe the occasional bit of bacon as a treat!
    I'll have a look into the Honey stove, but as I said, the money situation is very low!
    Anyone tried one of the "Swedish army surplus" trangias'? They seem to be very cheap wondering what the quality is like?

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    Quality is solid & heavy. Can be used on open fire as well. Popular, but not universally, with many bushcrafters. They take a different burner to the Trangia (they are not Trangia's) & need a slightly bigger seal in the burner cap. If you get one & the seals perished give me a shout as I stock them.

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    Stainless steel Honey Stove version is much cheaper than Ti version and still reasonably lightweight at about 360g or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genaa View Post
    This would let you burn meths, hexamine and twigs.

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    Mini Trangia every time for me. Not that expensive (about £22 on Amazon). Not too bulky in rucksack. Meths available anywhere. Just write down the foreign names on a bit of paper. No worries carrying a drop of fuel in hold luggage as far as I know.

    Maybe someone can confirm or clarifythe last bit.

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    Home-made SBS - Every time!Meths is available throughout Europe, but rather annoyingly, you have to know what its 'local' name is from country to country. It's no use doing a 'Google Translate' search for 'meths' or 'methylated spirit', because that won't call up the 'local' name, which will usually be something quite different. In France, for example, it is 'alcool a bruler'... literally 'alcohol for burning'. In Denmark it is 'husholdnings sprit'... meaning 'household spirit'.

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    Clas Ohlson have a stove/pan combo that is similar to a Trangia set but lighter and cheaper.

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    I like Paddies solution for a meths burner. But it does'nt seempossible to burn wood with it. However it retains and distributes the heat likely very nice.

    For a month trip and not wanting constantly to hunt for fuel a combo of woodburner and meths burner will suit you fine. Indeed something like a Caldera cone, Bushcooker or whatever as long as the woodburner supports pans and also can contain a meths cup (a trangia or whatever brand of cup).

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    Have a look at this site. Meths info for about 25 to 30 countries.

    http://www.trangiastove.co.uk/trangia-fuel-names.php

    Also lots of other useful stuff.

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    Paddy's stove is a titanium version of my SqueezeBox Stove.

    http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/f...t/4/UTN/28610/

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    Aha so your the brain of that thingy. Nicely done captain!

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    Don't get mini trangia. There are clones out there for £10 and 30 g lighter too. Plus you'll need a windshield as it's support isn't adequate in wind ime. you can probably pick up a Caldera cone for £40 but need the matching pan. A better system but out of your price range I suppose.
    I'd end up with gas and just make sure I have a stock. Not ameths fan myself.

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    I just went for a Trangia 27 - 2 UL, bigger than I was hoping for, but at least I'll have comfort cooking each night. And I got it at a bargin price, just happened to catch one on ebay. Waiting for it too arrive, then test it out at the weekend. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Im thinking I may try out a few when the money situation is better, the Honey Stove has some fantastic reviews, as for making my own, yesterday Imade a can burner and its own wind sheild, good fun, made a brew on it.

    Thanks again all.

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