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    Only a few days left till my first winter wild camp. I am taking a two-man tent (Zephyros2) rather than my Laser Comp because I think the extra space will give me more comfort. I haven't got a winter mat but I intend to put my torsolite on a thermarest trail-lite.I have an Alpkit Alpine Dream 500 which I shall use with a fleecebag liner.I generally take spare everything but will sure to take some spare gloves (I have down mitts) and a spare fleece hat (my Extreme Smock has a hood). I'm not sure whetherI should take my Extreme Salopettes, if I put them in a compression bag they'll at least make a nice pillow! I will take a stretchy base layer for the walk & thermal long johns for sleeping in.

    I am taking an extra food portion and now have a larger hip flask. I can always filter water for a hot brew.

    I have a thermometer with min/max recording so I shall know what I was in and how much to increase or decrease for next time.

    Am I missing anything obvious?

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    If you'll be pitching on snow, you may need some snow pegs.

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    There was snow there before it snowed last week (almost an oxymoron) so I'm guessing that there willbe some there. I'm hoping my Alpkit Tikes will be good enough otherwise I'll descend until I can get a spot whereI can use them.

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    Sorry to ask for info rather than share it, but which thermometer do you use Simon?

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    There was a forum discussion on it here a couple of weeks ago or so. The oneI bought is designed to be stuck on a green-house! It is solar powered and records min & max temperature and weighs around 20 grammes. Just £5.00 from play.com (a play trader that seems to have disappeared, gadgestuk.com) (delivered). Link below to one still available:

    Solar Thermometer

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    cheers! one of the few items I still need...

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    Camped a few nights recently.(lowest -6*C) Off to S. Wales this friday for the weekend - possibly colder higher up I guess.

    Make sure you have enough unfrozen water for morning and keep fuel warm

    I take a water bottle I'm happy to sleep with (well, a platypus) - also keep meths bottle in my sleeping bag/jacket pocket too.

    Mat-wise - I am soft when it comes to temperature so I'll take an extra ccf pad - 3mm 70cmx 2m tent underlay as well as 3/4 Thermarest and full length ccf pad - still weighs less than a full length standard downmat. Bulky but light - strapped outside pack.

    Face covering for sleeping. (I use a Patty R1 balaclava now )

    Warm 'high loft'socks for bed/tent. - I use pile fibre socks. some prefer down. Heatholders are good.

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    A pair of wristies make a surprising difference in the cooler weather, I use meraklon ones but merino or fleece are good too.

    Another vote for he Heatholders too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post

    Make sure you have enough unfrozen water for morning and keep fuel warm
    Fill your billy for the morning brew before you go to kip - doesn't matter if it freezes then

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    Cheers Mole. I do have a platypus and sleeping with it might be the way to go. I cook with gas & I'll stick the cannister at the bottom of the bag too (I hadn'tthought about this).

    I hadn't considered my face: that might be an issue but as no-one is around I guess I can don my boxer shorts on my face if it does get uncomfortable.

    My bag has a comfort rating of -5 so with my thermal long johns on & fleece liner I reckon I should be ok but that is partly why I wanted the thermometer to gauge it more accurately.

    I can always put some layers on anyway but I prefer not to if I can get get away with it.

    Where are you going in Wales Mole? I know you are a regular Dartmoor man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosswm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post

    Make sure you have enough unfrozen water for morning and keep fuel warm
    Fill your billy for the morning brew before you go to kip - doesn't matter if it freezes then
    I s'pose I tend to want a drink of water if I wake up in the night.

    Think I'd rather boil water before bed and use as a hotwater bottle.

    Seems wasteful of fuel to me - unless you have no choice due to being in continuous freezing conditions.

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    I rarely wake up & wouldn't drink if I did - just shows we're all different! No HWB for me neither.

    Rarely is any freezing more than a crust in the UK & boiling once for a HWB & then again to heat up for a brew is probably on a par with any extra fuel used to thaw out a pan of icy water. If well below zero I'll be sure to have plenty of fuel in reserve rather than the tighter margins I use most of the time.

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    Simon, if it's the pitch i'm thinking of it's flat peat, no heather or anything else so your regular pegs should be ok, and btw, no running water up their either, and quite a trek to find some.

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    Hi Twiglegs it is According to the o/sthere is a stream about a quarter of a mile to the North that runs East. Finding water and then decanting it with my travel tap is what wild camping is all about to me!

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    I know what you're saying as i too use a travel tap, but i'd be wary of relying on the source you point out mate, it's right at the top of the watershed and may well be dry.

    I fear you may have to walk much further North to the obvious supply there, or melt snow.

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    Melting snow is the way to go, it sounds exciting too you know!

    (That sounds very alliterative if read correctly, I could get you lot to contribute to a book I'm writing like Hugh!)

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    [QUOTE=Mole;1047471]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosswm View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    <blockquote class=quote>

    Make sure you have enough unfrozen water for morning and keep fuel warm
    Fill your billy for the morning brew before you go to kip - doesn't matter if it freezes then
    I s'pose I tend to want a drink of water if I wake up in the night.

    Think I'd rather boil water before bed and use as a hotwater bottle.

    Seems wasteful of fuel to me - unless you have no choice due to being in continuous freezing conditions. </blockquote>

    I'm with mole on this, i use a SIGG rip of for a water bottle ensuring the water isn't frozen for a morning brew.

    Not sure how it compares fuel wise but it's going to take more fuel to boil frozen water obviously, if it's offsets the boil the night before i dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonDawes View Post

    Melting snow is the way to go, it sounds exciting too you know!

    (That sounds very alliterative if read correctly, I could get you lot to contribute to a book I'm writing like Hugh!)
    Haha, gotta love your enthusiasm.
    Btw, don't be alarmed if you hear voices, last time i was there i had a few night runners tear past, i saw them, but they didn't see me.

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    I melted snow for water on my first winter wild camp, won't do it again unless I absolutely have to it eats up fuel! But, winter camping for the first time, you have to give it a go melting snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metric Kate View Post
    I melted snow for water on my first winter wild camp, won't do it again unless I absolutely have to it eats up fuel! But, winter camping for the first time, you have to give it a go melting snow!
    I tried it with meths and my clone, i almost died of thirst.

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