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    How do the GPS systems in the most up to date mobiles compare withe the likes of Satmap Garmin et al

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    I use View Ranger on a Samsung Touch screen and its very good, I have never used Satmap so cant compare but View Ranger is very slick.

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    The biggest problems with the phone type systems compared to dedicated units seems to be battery life.

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    it very much depends upon what you want a gps for. a dedicated unit probably offers far more funtionality than something bolted onto another device.
    i have no experience of mobile phone gps but have used garmins and now have a satmap.

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    Hello Mark,

    I have an iphone 4 (which I Love) and a Satmap 10. I have downloaded a free Ap called Imapmyhike which is very impressive but it does need a 3g connection to load basic goole maps but not to recored a route as it uses the built in GPS. I do have an OS ap too but again it needs a phone connection to view the maps and it often isnt available for some reason. I know there are are other aps for Memory map and Anquet but haven't used these. On top of the poor battery life of the iphone i wouldn't have it out in the open in wet weather as it would cost a fortune to replace. I also think the Satmap is fantastic as i have mentioned before I wouldn't want to be with out it. The battery pack that i think comes with the Active 10 sport or as an extra works for hours and quite often i will get a couple of walks out of it before needing to recharge . On top of that its waterproof and I never worry about it getting wet. So summing up in my opinion the Iphone is great but no substitute for my Satmap 10 on the hills.

    Hope this helps

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    Thanks guys that is some food for thought.

    Haven't made up my mind but if only you could get a weather forecast on a Satmap!

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    Battery-wise I get about 10 hours out of my Nokia 5800 running Viewranger in tracking mode - on all the time (most recently was last weekend on an overnight backpack where I doubt the balmy temperatures helped).

    The phone is more delicate than a mapping unit I would guess; but mobile units that are rugged are appearing.

    Personally I mainly use a Geko 301 for navigation; having the Viewranger phone is great (as I take a phone anyway) - and great fun for a quick fix and reassurance. On multi-day trips battery life is an issue - and here the Geko wins out over any mobile unit; not sure about battery life for the Satmap and its ilk.

    Again, it is I guess about what you want to do and how you choose to do it. I love the idea of converged ubiquitous technologies.....but they are not quite there yet IMO.

    And paper maps are so last Century.

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    "converged ubiquitous technologies" ...highlight and into dissertation...

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    Runs plagiarism checker....

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    Plagiarism is so last century

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    I too use Satmap and currently it does appear to be the best of the bunch. Granted I like the big screen as my eyesight ain't great when it comes reading but I find it does the job very well indeed.

    And as one other poster alluded to, it's most definately waterproof, having taken mine for an unscheduled swim a couple of weeks back!

    If it has one tiny weakness, it's the battery life if you don't use the power saving settings, but that apart, I can only praise it.

    I don't like the idea of using a phone app as it will shorten the battery time considerably and you never know when you might actually need to make a call, rather than working out where you are. In this case, I'd rather carry two bits of kit.

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    im a new owner of a satmap and so far think its great though havnt been out for any greatlength of time yet, seems easy to operate its just im not really a techy so having to keep trial and error to get what i want out of it. havnt got a smart phone so cant comment on that. i did try to get satmap owners interested in a mini meet to help each other out but didnt really get off the ground

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    I don't have a satmap but have used a couple of various smartphone applications.

    I used Quo ona windows based mobile with the mapping and in built gps. Positioning was good but drawback is battery life. I've used a free app on my old nokia 5800 but found the in built gps a bit slow. However on my new android htc, the inbuilt gps and a free grid reference locator is great as I take laminated pages out with me. I only need to know my location rather than navigate with a device.

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    I use Trekbuddy with my Blackberrry Bold, I did a 41km walk with an overnight camp in the Cairngorms on Friday / Saturday, the battery on the phone lasted 33 hours. The battery ran out about 2 hrs before I finished, I foolishly left the phone on during the night, had I turned it off, the battery would have lasted the whole walk.

    Using my phone with mapping software is a bonus, I primarily use map and compass, but seeing your position on a screen, and using waypoints to keep you informed of exactly how many meters away your next destination is, is quite cool I installed TrekBuddy on my sons HTC Desire, and it looks a lot better with the bigger screen, I dont think the battery would last as long though.

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    I have a SatMap (amongst many GPS devices) and am very pleased with it. I also use Quo so would probably look at the Lowrance devices next time around.

    Cheers

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    wow

    just looked at the Satmap and saw the price of the maps!

    living in Belgium the best I could get would be the whole country at 1:50k for £86

    then throw in say the Vosges (Alsace £102 1:25k), maybe parts of the Alps (??),and a couple of UK national parks at 1:25k (£102 each) wouldstart to get very expensive, especially for something that is incompatible with anything else and can't be updated

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    I've used the Satmap since it first came out and think it's a good, reliable, rugged unit that meets my varied outdoor needs [sounds dodgy] very well.

    I've started playing with mapping/gps functions on my Android compatible phone. The basic problems for me are the lack of robustness in the build of the phone [a Sony Ericsson Experia X10] for outdoor use, and the fact that the touchscreen doesn't work with wet/cold/gloved fingers. May be less of an issue with other phones, but these two factors rule out using my phone as a gps unit.

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    Ben

    I tend to buy the maps when they are on offer, plus I am a mapping geek and will have maps of the same area on handheld, quo, paper, etc. But it would make sense to standardise on the quo/lowrance system.

    Steve D

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    I see that the Quo maps are still about £60 for e.g. 1:25k Lakes or Snowdonia. Also nothing outside UK except Ireland and Slovenia (!?).

    Isdigital mapping often on offer? What kind of discounts can you get?

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