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    Summer bag/quilt/comforter?

    I've got a very warm winter bag and a crappy cheap synthetic summer bag which I'd like to replace. I'm looking at the Cumulus range as my other bag is from them and very good quality and value.

    I'm considering:

    1. The M350 Comforter: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=54&vid=7 - I like the idea of a big oblong quilt as it could also be useful in family camping as a quilt/blanket and allows one to stick limbs out if overheating. However, it has a rating of Comfort 2c / Limit -4c and if my other Cumulus bag is anything to go by these are pretty accurate bordering on pessimistic so might be too warm for UK summer nights when things fairly often hit like 10C. However would be good in spring and autumn. 560g - pretty lighy

    2. The Quilt 250: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=53&vid=7 - rated at 4C/0C so probably about right. But the footbox is permanently joined up to about the hip by the look of it so cannot stick a leg out if warm and can't be spread out as a quilt. 480g and the lightest of the lot.

    3. The LiteLine 300 bag: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=61&vid=6 - again 4C/0C rating. A normal bag so zipped all the way down and therefore can be spread out when needed and has a hood if it's colder than expected. at 640g, the heaviest option.


    Any thoughts?

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    Have you considered the Snugpak Jungle Blanket? Nice and simple synthetic blanket, packs very small (about the same as a nalgene bottle) and has kept me warm down to 10c. I also like the fact that it has a water resistant outer meaning you can do away with the bivi bag if sleeping under a tarp. At 25(ish) It's also very cheap!
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    I've not used the Jungle Blanket but I have the Snugpak Jungle Bag - bit heavier than the Jungle Blanket but has a integral face net & can be fully opened out into a blanket or zipped up and used as a regular rectangular sleeping bag. One of the most useful bits of kit I have. Worth checking out the Snugpak website for specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noz View Post
    I've got a very warm winter bag and a crappy cheap synthetic summer bag which I'd like to replace. I'm looking at the Cumulus range as my other bag is from them and very good quality and value.

    I'm considering:

    1. The M350 Comforter: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=54&vid=7 - I like the idea of a big oblong quilt as it could also be useful in family camping as a quilt/blanket and allows one to stick limbs out if overheating. However, it has a rating of Comfort 2c / Limit -4c and if my other Cumulus bag is anything to go by these are pretty accurate bordering on pessimistic so might be too warm for UK summer nights when things fairly often hit like 10C. However would be good in spring and autumn. 560g - pretty lighy

    2. The Quilt 250: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=53&vid=7 - rated at 4C/0C so probably about right. But the footbox is permanently joined up to about the hip by the look of it so cannot stick a leg out if warm and can't be spread out as a quilt. 480g and the lightest of the lot.

    3. The LiteLine 300 bag: http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/ca...0?gid=61&vid=6 - again 4C/0C rating. A normal bag so zipped all the way down and therefore can be spread out when needed and has a hood if it's colder than expected. at 640g, the heaviest option.


    Any thoughts?
    Whether quilts suit, and what sort you need, depends on how big you are (I'm 6'4" w/ a 46" chest) and how restless a sleeper - esp. if a sidesleeper - you are.

    My favourite Summer quilt is a PH Designs 'single ultra quilt' (with optional footbag) - this is 400g or so, and because of its adequate 1.46m width & the footbag, it doesn't wander. I am a restless sidesleeper. I bought it in their sale a year or so back at around 200.

    For Spring/Autumn I use a custom-made As Tucas 'Sestrals Blanket' - this is both XL & (custom) 1.6m wide, in APEX 200. Fairly heavy at around 1000g - doesn't wander & is gloriously comforting. In APEX 167 it'd do well for Summer use in blighty.

    I've owned & used other, more complex & differently dimensioned quilts; but the above two are really fine & worth the expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoarthing View Post
    Whether quilts suit, and what sort you need, depends on how big you are (I'm 6'4" w/ a 46" chest) and how restless a sleeper - esp. if a sidesleeper - you are.

    My favourite Summer quilt is a PH Designs 'single ultra quilt' (with optional footbag) - this is 400g or so, and because of its adequate 1.46m width & the footbag, it doesn't wander. I am a restless sidesleeper. I bought it in their sale a year or so back at around 200.

    For Spring/Autumn I use a custom-made As Tucas 'Sestrals Blanket' - this is both XL & (custom) 1.6m wide, in APEX 200. Fairly heavy at around 1000g - doesn't wander & is gloriously comforting. In APEX 167 it'd do well for Summer use in blighty.

    I've owned & used other, more complex & differently dimensioned quilts; but the above two are really fine & worth the expense.
    I'm definitely a restless sleeper. I've got a lot of back problems and it hurts when I stay still for too long and so I can't just lay there on my back and drift off. So other than the temp rating, I'm trying to work out if a quilt or comforter will be suitable at all really. Some people say you have to keep readjusting everytime you move (not an option for someone who move every few minutes) but others say they're better than bags.


    I'm 5'11 but pretty broad - 44" chest. My other Cumulus bag is quite wide and I can turn in it. I can't do narrow bags.


    My sleeping mat is the Exped UL LW which is was the widest I could find and makes things a lot more comfortable. In an ideal world I'd have a quilt which attached to 3 sides of it making it like a quilt at home but with no gaps for drafts. Then I could toss and turn as much as I like. However most of the quilts seem to involve tucking under your body so not sure how that's going to be even as good as a bag.


    How do you arrange yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barneys Bimbles View Post
    Have you considered the Snugpak Jungle Blanket? Nice and simple synthetic blanket, packs very small (about the same as a nalgene bottle) and has kept me warm down to 10c. I also like the fact that it has a water resistant outer meaning you can do away with the bivi bag if sleeping under a tarp. At 25(ish) It's also very cheap!
    I think 10C is not warm enough cover the rest of the year that my winter bag doesn't. Even some clear summer nights drop to less than that on a hill so not sure about that.
    Last edited by Noz; 11-05-2017 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noz View Post
    I'm definitely a restless sleeper. I've got a lot of back problems and it hurts when I stay still for too long and so I can't just lay there on my back and drift off. So other than the temp rating, I'm trying to work out if a quilt or comforter will be suitable at all really. Some people say you have to keep readjusting everytime you move (not an option for someone who move every few minutes) but others say they're better than bags.


    I'm 5'11 but pretty broad - 44" chest. My other Cumulus bag is quite wide and I can turn in it. I can't do narrow bags.


    My sleeping mat is the Exped UL LW which is was the widest I could find and makes things a lot more comfortable. In an ideal world I'd have a quilt which attached to 3 sides of it making it like a quilt at home but with no gaps for drafts. Then I could toss and turn as much as I like. However most of the quilts seem to involve tucking under your body so not sure how that's going to be even as good as a bag.


    How do you arrange yours?
    Both the above quilts stay in place because they are relatively wide, with positive location at the feet. This width makes all the difference to usability. I can't be doing with straps and so on - defeats the object.

    I used to use 7cm Exped LW downmats, now a JD Gear (Aliexpress) insulated mat of the same dimensions (but 9cm thick) - very comfortable & tolerable weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoarthing View Post
    Both the above quilts stay in place because they are relatively wide, with positive location at the feet. This width makes all the difference to usability. I can't be doing with straps and so on - defeats the object.

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    I've been looking at loads of quilts recently because I want to find a solution for couple sleeping and what you two bring up is what I don't understand about quilts. The straps to hold the quilt under your body look really annoying because... (1) they are under your body. Do I want to sleep on straps? (2) If you need straps to make a quilt behave like a mummy bag by being tucked under your body, then apart from not squishing goose down under your body and wasting insulation, it's going to feel pretty much like sleeping in a mummy bag isn't it? so, from a comfort point of view, what's the advantage?

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